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Which simulator for the future of bush flying?
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 05:49 AM
Does there need to be a switch per se?Can't there be multiple sims, legacy and current, to fly?FSX, still many people can't easily max out and with no FS11 on the horizon it is the de facto standard for current development. Having a highly enhanced FSX maxed out one day, many people will be in heaven.FS9, needless to say, there will always be people enjoying the variety of addons and high performance.X-Plane 9: is getting better and better. Beautiful addon sceneries ideal for bush flying already available. I can see a lot of people going this way. So, with above said, this is the current situation with potential for the next 3 years + or more. Then, like it happened with the train simulator business, there will be something coming sooner or later. Aerosoft is already getting quite serious about it.Not to forget the development scene around Fly! Legacy. So, it comes down to a matter of taste.
When we started BFU, we were flying on Flight Unlimited II and III. Then we transitioned through several version of Microsoft Flight Simulator. Where do we go from here? Stick with FSX? Switch to XPlane? Wait for FS11?
Posted 29 October 2009 - 04:40 PM
Oh, yes. We've always been a simulator-independent organization, although the quantity of addons (bases, planes, repaints, etc.) tended to go with the popular platform, of course. Just curious where everyone's thoughts were.I haven't yet gotten FS X but will likely do so with the next major hardware upgrade.
Posted 01 November 2009 - 08:22 AM
Hahaha, ya let's just wait til FS11. ******* will be back by then and his dad is an excellent scenery designer. I don't think it makes any difference because the same fields are in all the editions. (Except for Avsim Base and a couple of other 2k2 ones). And it would be interesting to see screen shots from X-Plane and etc. (do them as Pireps of your own job/flying?)
Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:38 PM
Interesting question Peter. I think part of the reason BFU was so much more active years earlier was mostly due to the fact most were flying the same sim which made interaction easier. I've been flying FSX since day one and find it far superior to FS9, even more so now that I have a new rig, which still can't max out autogen in real weather, but that doesn't matter as it is still a fantastic experience. TongassX is leaps and bounds better than the FS9 version and with addons like the upcoming FTX PNW and aircraft like the A2A cub, there really is no comparison.I've been working on so many scenery projects for FSX and I keep thinking about how nice it would be to do updated versions of BFU ones, but the lack of interest, which I contribute mostly to the separate sim versions, keeps me from doing it.I tried XP9 a few times and while it was a neat experience, it has a long way to go to be viable for my bush needs.
Posted 05 November 2009 - 09:04 AM
Hi Peter, without real weather, I can in most places, but weather is the key. keep in mind that the NORMAL autogen setting is the same as the maxed setting in FS9 and you still have dense, very dense and extremely dense in which the amount of trees is just insane. You can even edit the CFG to increase the autogen even more. I remember when FSX first came out how jealous I was when Naji kept posting about what a great experience he was having, LOL.
Wow, you can't max autogen on that rig? I'd certainly be hurting by comparison. Well, I'm sure we'll get migrated to FS X, just as most of us eventually got onto FS9. Then, it'd be wonderful to see your remakes of BFU sceneries!
Posted 05 November 2009 - 10:07 AM
Hello, I agree with Mike. FSX is just wonderful even with default scenery its much more easy to navigate. Addon's are coming in like Tongass X its just fabulous and Misy Fjords is in the remake for FSX also.FS9 is history for me but I respect others sticking with a previous version of flightsimulator.We should take more into account not to mention scenery needed to fly assignments because otherwise some off us will be left aside because they dont have this or that.Regards,Smoky
Posted 10 November 2009 - 03:08 PM
Hi to all,I have FS9 and love it, but do most of my bush flying in good old FS 2002! It still looks great on my farly modest system, and I honestly thnk that the default water reflective textures and wave effects are better than FS9.The scenery add-ons by the late Leon Louis and others look superb.Call me an old timer but I still fly FU2 and Fu3 as well !Regards........Stuart
Posted 07 December 2009 - 04:18 AM
Hello, everyone! FSX it is for me, but I fly in only two areas: Tongass X and FTX Australia with all the FTX airfields. Looking forward to FTX PNW, which should bring me back in force to where we started our beloved BFU :(I wish I could still fly FU3! But with the hardware upgrades, it hasn't been easy to keep FU3 graphics as I remember them with the Voodoo 5 graphics card. It is a shame really. I think I still have that card in one of my old computers. Maybe someday I'll try re-installing it.
Posted 07 December 2009 - 01:43 PM
First off I'd like to say that the "Missions" capable FSX is just what BFU was always needing IMO, BFU jobs with more than one way to fly them but with set weather and goals. Something we tried to do at the start with FU2/3 but didn't have the tools to pull off....Even without using the missions feature, I'd love to see BFU scenery done for FSX, not to make it THE sim to use, but so that everyone who has gone with FSX can fly properly for BFU.BTW, I see new posts in the FU forums from many who have FU3 working on the latest hardware...
Posted 09 December 2009 - 05:44 PM
Yeah, having BFU jobs as missions for FSX would be very cool!
First off I'd like to say that the "Missions" capable FSX is just what BFU was always needing IMO, BFU jobs with more than one way to fly them but with set weather and goals. Something we tried to do at the start with FU2/3 but didn't have the tools to pull off....
Posted 10 December 2009 - 01:27 PM
BUT... it takes someone who has the time and talent to get into making the missions. The basic mission could still be thought up and submitted by BFU flyers as always, but then converted to FSX missions for those that want them.I really have no idea how hard or time consuming it is to do, but there is a "FSX Missions" forum here at Avsim and there seem to be people who like making them.
Yeah, having BFU jobs as missions for FSX would be very cool!
Posted 10 December 2009 - 02:45 PM
I don't know either. Haven't moved up to FSX yet.Anyone here created a mission before?
I really have no idea how hard or time consuming it is to do, but there is a "FSX Missions" forum here at Avsim and there seem to be people who like making them.
Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:03 PM
Greetings,Sorry, this old boy is and always will be a FS9 - (ACOF)- FS2004 supporter. Still have YEARs and YEARs of places and planes to investigate and check out..... I will be dead and still not have run out of places to go and things to do within FS9!!! I am sure FSX is way cooler and faster and ya ya ya but why switch? Take care.Ed
Posted 06 March 2011 - 03:37 PM
Hello!IMHO it really doesn't matter what platform gets used; FS 2002, FS 9, FSX, X Plane, etc. The important thing is the EXPERIENCE that you get flying a bush pilot oriented mission.The scenery is part of the experience, but the thrill comes from trying to get into that smalldirt strip nice and slow, and make it out the same way.You can get the same kind of experience regardless of the sim. Honestly, if everyone here starts getting hung up on which simulator is "best" for bush flying thenquite frankly you're missing the point. Just go out and challenge yourself... try to get that birdinto that narrow landing field; fly between ridges and canyons instead of going up and above.Oh, and one other thing... let's see some screen shots! Have fun!Alan
Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:37 PM
Well, the subject of this thread is "Which simulator for the future of bush flying?". So let me be clear, ALL SIMS ARE GREAT but for me and my experience it is ONLY FS9...no harm no foul. Live and let live - or in other words, have fun, go fly today! Ed