Most Dangerous NGX Approaches and Departures

[BreezyPointDeparture 2]

Hi Everyone,wanted to hear from all of you: from which airport have you had your most challenging and difficult approaches and departures?

[marijn747berg 1]

For me, definetely Innsbrukc, Austria (LOWI). You really have to squeeze your way through thise mountains

[738 73]

For me......has to be LOWI so far

[Paul Deemer 13]

MHTG (Toncontin)LOWI (Innsbruck)SION (Switzerland)LPMA (Madeira)SBRJ (Rio de Janeiro)KSAN (San Diego)KJAC (Jackson Hole)KASE (Aspen)

Edited January 8, 2012 by UAL115

[Buzz313th 0]

St Barts before SP1.Haven't been able to do it since SP1, although only gave it two tries.JB

[Paul Deemer 13]

Haven't been able to do it since SP1, although only gave it two tries.

We talking real world or fantasy? No jets would ever land there in the real world.

[Alec 370]

SBRJ isn't an easy one. Try landing at RWY 02, visual circle approach. Once you get lined up at the appropriate altitute I don't think there's any challenge anymore, you just can't let the aircraft float after the 1000 mark.

[Buzz313th 0]

We talking real world or fantasy? No jets would ever land there in the real world.

LOL, when we are playing FSX, we aren't in the real world.

Hi Everyone,wanted to hear from all of you: from which airport have you had your most challenging and difficult approaches and departures?

I can only asume the OP is refering to Flight Sim.JB

[Gianluca Garella 0]

Sion in Switzerland (LSGS) much more difficult than LOWI.

[hughesj2 0]

From the IPH (Instrument Procedures Handbook - 4-26 ) available from the FAA's website, here..Which is a brilliant read in general for those with questions, including NGX favourites like ILS/RNAV/RNP/STARs etc etc...http://www.faa.gov/l...dures_handbook/SPECIAL AIRPORTS & COMMENTSKodiak, AK Airport is surrounded by mountainous terrain. Any go-around beyond ILS or GCA MAP will not provide obstruction clearance.Petersburg, AK Mountainous terrain in immediate vicinity of airport, all quadrants.Cape Newenham AFS, AK Runway located on mountain slope with high gradient factor; nonstandard instrument approach.Washington, DC (National) Special arrival/departure procedures.Shenandoah Valley,VA Mountainous terrain. (Stanton-Waynesboro-Harrisonburg)Aspen, CO High terrain; special procedures.Gunnison, CO VOR only; uncontrolled; numerous obstructions in airport area; complex departure procedures.Missoula, MT Mountainous terrain; special procedures.Jackson Hole, WY Mountainous terrain; all quadrants; complex departure procedures.Hailey, ID (Friedman Memorial) Mountainous terrain; special arrival/departure procedures.Hayden,Yampa Valley, CO Mountainous terrain; no control tower; special engine-out procedures for certain large airplanes.Lihue, Kauai, HI High terrain; mountainous to 2,300 feet within 3 miles of the localizer.Ontario, CA Mountainous terrain and extremely limited visibility in haze conditions.I'd definitely add LOWI, PAKT as well as good fun (for sadists ) Missoula to Jackson Hole is cool, especially if you have ORBX CRM/NRM and of course the NGX 600....

[Flight Sim Geek 0]

From the IPH (Instrument Procedures Handbook - 4-26 ) available from the FAA's website, here..Which is a brilliant read in general for those with questions, including NGX favourites like ILS/RNAV/RNP/STARs etc etc...http://www.faa.gov/l...dures_handbook/SPECIAL AIRPORTS & COMMENTSKodiak, AK Airport is surrounded by mountainous terrain. Any go-around beyond ILS or GCA MAP will not provide obstruction clearance.Petersburg, AK Mountainous terrain in immediate vicinity of airport, all quadrants.Cape Newenham AFS, AK Runway located on mountain slope with high gradient factor; nonstandard instrument approach.Washington, DC (National) Special arrival/departure procedures.Shenandoah Valley,VA Mountainous terrain. (Stanton-Waynesboro-Harrisonburg)Aspen, CO High terrain; special procedures.Gunnison, CO VOR only; uncontrolled; numerous obstructions in airport area; complex departure procedures.Missoula, MT Mountainous terrain; special procedures.Jackson Hole, WY Mountainous terrain; all quadrants; complex departure procedures.Hailey, ID (Friedman Memorial) Mountainous terrain; special arrival/departure procedures.Hayden,Yampa Valley, CO Mountainous terrain; no control tower; special engine-out procedures for certain large airplanes.Lihue, Kauai, HI High terrain; mountainous to 2,300 feet within 3 miles of the localizer.Ontario, CA Mountainous terrain and extremely limited visibility in haze conditions.I'd definitely add LOWI, PAKT as well as good fun (for sadists ) Missoula to Jackson Hole is cool, especially if you have ORBX CRM/NRM and of course the NGX 600....

Thanks fr the list. However I do not find PAKT very challenging even in bad weather. Aaron G.

[Spin737 102]

From the IPH (Instrument Procedures Handbook - 4-26 ) available from the FAA's website, here..Which is a brilliant read in general for those with questions, including NGX favourites like ILS/RNAV/RNP/STARs etc etc...http://www.faa.gov/l...dures_handbook/SPECIAL AIRPORTS & COMMENTSKodiak, AK Airport is surrounded by mountainous terrain. Any go-around beyond ILS or GCA MAP will not provide obstruction clearance.Petersburg, AK Mountainous terrain in immediate vicinity of airport, all quadrants.Cape Newenham AFS, AK Runway located on mountain slope with high gradient factor; nonstandard instrument approach.Washington, DC (National) Special arrival/departure procedures.Shenandoah Valley,VA Mountainous terrain. (Stanton-Waynesboro-Harrisonburg)Aspen, CO High terrain; special procedures.Gunnison, CO VOR only; uncontrolled; numerous obstructions in airport area; complex departure procedures.Missoula, MT Mountainous terrain; special procedures.Jackson Hole, WY Mountainous terrain; all quadrants; complex departure procedures.Hailey, ID (Friedman Memorial) Mountainous terrain; special arrival/departure procedures.Hayden,Yampa Valley, CO Mountainous terrain; no control tower; special engine-out procedures for certain large airplanes.Lihue, Kauai, HI High terrain; mountainous to 2,300 feet within 3 miles of the localizer.Ontario, CA Mountainous terrain and extremely limited visibility in haze conditions.I'd definitely add LOWI, PAKT as well as good fun (for sadists ) Missoula to Jackson Hole is cool, especially if you have ORBX CRM/NRM and of course the NGX 600....

Your list doesn't have PAJN? Lihue is easy compared to that. KONT gets bad with the Santa Anna winds, but PAJN with the hill winds and coming down the channel on 26 or passing "The Cut" on 8 is fun.

[Ioan92 63]

Innsbruck seems pretty easy to me, maybe because I've always approached from the city.

[Lawyer+Pilot 126]

How about a departure from all of the above listed airports with a single engine failure at V1. Fun. Or in the spirit of US1549, how about dual engine failure? Dare we?

[Buzz313th 0]

How about a departure from all of the above listed airports with a single engine failure at V1. Fun.Or in the spirit of US1549, how about dual engine failure? Dare we?

Good call, now with SP1b I believe we can get the V1 cut at V1, can't we?Haven't tried it yet.JB