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Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:43 AM
Hi,I have been using ASE support for flight planning with FSBuild for some time and it has worked very well. However with the latest beta build when I save the current weather and then run FSBuild the wind component that I get in the flight plan at times is totally different than what ASE produces as start my flight. For example I flew from LFPG to KATL the plan wind was -15, when ASE loaded the wind component was -60. Is there some variable that I am not loading correctly. I have all the FSB settings correctly loaded for integration with ASE.Thanks for help to resolve this issue.Bob JohnsonKDTW
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:21 AM
Hey Bobby,i actually have noticed this same thing lately with HUGE discrepancies... FS9ASE latest BuildFSBuild latest buildFSFK latest buildJust set up a flight plan from LLBG-KEWR. ASE briefing page reports the following winds for the flight 300/34 with a -17 wind component.FSBUILD and FSFk both come up with this: AVG wind conditions: 301/75 Avg Headwind: 68.65 Avg Crosswind -31.43Both say an avg temp of -53ASE even shows headwinds off 100+ in the actual report but the summary is completely wrong...-Paul
Posted 13 February 2012 - 02:16 PM
Hi Everyone, came up on the same problem yesterday EHAM to KATL FSBuild planned wind component was -23 the ASE component was -12 ASE during flight had head winds of 110 knots along the US east coast. Luckly I put an extra 10K of fuel on my LDS 767. I am still waiting to hear from HiFi as to why the saved winds don't reflect the real ASE and NWS jet stream winds in the planning process.BTW ASE produced some awesome depictions of weather over western Europe as I climbed out of EHAM. Bob
Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:15 PM
Hi Paul,I received this response requesting this dataHi Robert,Could you provide us with a test case .pln file as well as the departure GMT date/time, and which wind component information was correct, fsb or ase.Could you also provide us with the options file located in appdataroaminghifiaseoptions.Thanks! I we will review asap.Joshua JonesCustomer Support SpecialistHiFi Technologies, Inc.Ticket DetailsTicket ID: MUS-204-20145Department: Technical SupportType: IssueStatus: On HoldPriority: NormalSupport Center: http://support.hifitechinc.comBob
Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:53 PM
Wow, my flight I am firing up right now is the worst I have seen to date...EGLL-KEWR Active Date and Time 2/28/12 17:51 GMTEGLL CPT UL9 KENET UN14 BAKUR SHA RESNO 5620N 5730N 5740N 5650N SCROD VALIE 5165N N242B YBC YRI BTV HANAA ALB V213 FLOSI SAX KEWRAccording to ASE, Wind Component is 0 According to FSB and FSFK I have a headwind component of 54kts!! That is an extra hour of fuel for a 777 I would have been short if going by ASE alone.I guess I just need to dismiss the ASE information as irrelevant...
Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:26 PM
Guys this seems to going in a circle. Here is sequence between Damian, Ernie (FSB) and me. I have submitted requested info to Ernie.Bob,I would have to see the ASE snapshot file you are using, and the flight plan you are trying to create.Regards.Ernie.Hi Ernie,This response to trouble ticket I sent to Damian where the plan wx in FSB does not match what ASE presents during the preflight. Have you notice this?Bob Hello Robert,After reviewing this, we cannot find any problems with the data or wind information provided by ASE, and there have been no changes that should affect this between SP3 and recent beta builds.Since you did not note any discrepancy between ASE data, ASE wind component information and your flight, it appears ASE is operating correctly here.The only issue then that FSBuild for some reason is not properly reading or using this information? This is strange that it only occurred with the most recent beta build of ASE, but perhaps that is a coincidence? Might be worth a test to go back to the original SP3 build (let us know if you need a download link).We have several testers using ASE latest beta builds as well as FSBuild with no problems reported.I do not have FSBuild myself, and since this appears to be an FSBuild issue I think we need to turn to Ernie for help on this one. My recommendation is to verify all FSBuild settings/configuration and if the problem persists to send Ernie the information (similar to what you have sent here, including the Wx file you are saving from ASE and the .PLN). I suspect the problem may be that FSBuild is not actually reading AS weather data for some reason.Sorry I could not be of more help, but please keep us updated on this.Damian ClarkHiFi Technologies, Inc. Bob
Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:40 PM
Hmm, Very peculiar Bob because in my case both FsFlightkeeper and FSBuild report the same results. It is only ASE that is coming back with completely bogus wind predictions on the briefing page after I file a flight plan... Like I said, it calculated my FP above at the time and date reported as a wind component of 0. FSFK said a headwind of 54 kts as did FSBuild and sure enough I have had a steady 50kt headwind for 3 1/2 hours now.So the error seems to be with ASE's internal calculations used for the briefing summary, not what it is reporting to external apps, that appears correct!
Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:04 PM
Yep, happened again today, doing KEWR-LLBG and ASE told me I had a 45kt wind component. FSB and FSFK calculated 70kt tailwind. That is a HUGE discrepancy in ASE's internal calculations opposed to the data it is sending out, especially on a 10 hour flight!...
Edited by psolk, 29 February 2012 - 01:05 PM.