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Major gaming site IGN reviews Flight
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:08 PM
Well, that shreds what little respect I had left of IGN.Seriously, 5.0? I wonder if the reviewer even bothered to turn off all the flight handicaps; judging by the review he didn't even bother to go into the options at all. It's almost as if the reviewer forgot the game was indeed free; commenting on how it's lacking radio communication and "real life weather".I would be insulted if I worked on the dev team. This game is so much better than a 5.0. And it's even worse once you consider how often IGN throws around 9.0+ ratings.So many ignorant people in the comments section; a lot of people passing judgement onto this game without even playing it. Oh well, that's the world we live in.They don't know what they are missing. Sure, it's not 100% realistic. But from one pilot to another, it's got just the right amount of sim and the right amount of arcade. It's a very relaxing game.
It's almost as if the reviewer has a personal vendetta against this game.
If you want to expand beyond Hawaii, well, you can't at any cost
Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:08 PM
Been a member there for more than 10 years and buy just about every major release title, their reviews are spot on.
The average gamer takes IGN reviews about as seriously as I take that guy with wild hair on ancient aliens.. I'm not saying their review scores never make any sense, but they never make any sense.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:11 PM
LOL. just read it, seems to be looking at the surface only. sure, many things are correct and it may make sense to look at what we got now but they are missing the enthusiasm many of us have when looking down the road. and some things are just plain wrong, e.g. I DID see trees swaying in the wind. maybe a minor point in a flight sim but I was nonetheless happily surprised to see this happen. I like actually what I see. I like flight.have to carry on now to bring my 4 pax to hana, and I don't really care whether the seats next to me are actually empty...
I'm not saying their review scores never make any sense, but they never make any sense.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:20 PM
And the truth shall set you free. About time someone publish the truth, exactly why this game will fail with it's current path. " it will undoubtedly alienate a wide swath of its potential audience – the hardcore crowd that not only filled its simulation coffers for years but also stuck with Microsoft through a variety of rough patches."
Here is the link http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1220696p1.html, that is not good if MS hoped to get the average gamer to buy it.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:21 PM
The funny part of the review is that they focused on everything that I think 80% of flight simmers are going to ignore. I'm not going to ding IGN as a whole, but their reviewer got this one totally wrong.I find the flight model in Flight to feel very real, but I don't know if it is "by the numbers" the way FSX was. I noticed that there are some RV-6A pilots on these forums and I wonder if they are finding that Flight is faithful to the real aircraft.I never looked to live out an artificial "Story" or a "Career" in a Flight Simulator. I can play GTA for that LOL.I love this line, "there arguably isn't much to hold long-term interest other than to experience the joy of landing, taking off, sitting in the cockpit, and enjoying the scenery." Umm I think that's the point!The community aspect is just starting to take off right here. That In my biggest opinion is what makes or breaks any enterprise these days.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:26 PM
Sigh,Flight certainly has some shortcomings, but seriously? I read a similar review at another site a few days ago, and it was much the same. It is like the guys that did those two reviews I read, did not spend any time with the sim to learn about what it does offer, and what it does not. Took a quick look at the surface, and never bothered to drill down into what all is in there.Alienate all the hard core simmers? Well it certainly has not this hard core simmer, and from what I see there are several others that feel the same as well. It certainly will not be for everyone, no one sim is. But will be interesting as it evolves to see how many more of the hard core simmers it captures. I have 22 hours in Flight so far, and while I read that whole review - it did not take long to realize he just did not spend an adequate amount of time with it to provide a more accurate review. If one is going to agree to review a product, at least devote the time to discovery of what all it will do, as well as all that it is lacking in - in this case that just was not done. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:07 PM
What? I've crashed - now have a few to my name, mostly on coin chasing for ten minutes now and then. Interact with other pilots via ATC? What sim allows that out of the box? Even the almighty FSX ATC doesn't really 'control' traffic. Oh no... you can't scare the locals by buzzing a street. Umm... good. Another nothing review.Mike
Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:14 PM
And the same way the reviewer threw out a random 5.0 how in the world do you come up with an 8.5 when comparing to the features in other "sims?" Call a spade a spade and be realistic. By inflating it to be better than it is you do no more justice than deflating it to be worse than it is. Personally as in my other review I would give it about a 7Decent graphicsGood performancelimited expand-ability to datefunBut as it stands right now,No full world, no AI, no heavies, no atc, still no darn rain effects, poor controller support it is at absolute best a 7.0 as a simulator. Don't let MS think what they gave us is above average because it isn't, let them know they better work darn hard to grow this and fill in all the missing variables if they really want it to succeed. I am not a half empty or half full guy, I am an ex-engineer so take emotion out of it, look at the facts and evaluate the situation in front of you. Do you really think this is 85% of 100% complete sim?Not saying it can't be fun and doesn't have positives as listed above but I have to politely disagree with your assertion this is an 8.5 heading for a 10. It is at best a 7.0 heading for an unknown AS WE STAND TODAY.
as a flight simulator its an 8.5 that will grow into a 10.0
Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:00 PM
After having tried Flight myself, I tend to agree with all these reviews that gave an average score. I find that IGN are usually rather objective, they don't often stick out as "strongly opinionated", and gamespot (only giving 7/10, which is not so great) has an excellent track record at meticulously looking at all aspects. I share with them a concern for the lack of depth, the axing of the whole world representation (newcomers to sim always asked me first "can I fly there, or there", and with Flight you can only disappoint them), the dead world with no ATC and no traffic - in fact I'll stop here because my list is long but it will only repeat what has been written in many places elsewhere. The review on simhq summarizes my issues with Flight pretty well.In terms of review, all in all, the current average metacritic score is only 65 http://www.metacriti...icrosoft-flightand regardless of what it means, the bean counters are VERY sensitive to metacritic score, with average under 80 usually meaning a very hard time for the developpers to get further funding for a franchise. Seeing that, I wouldn't be optimistic about how Microsoft might react to the release of Flight.In the end, it doesn't matter what I think of it anyway, noone here knows the crucial variable: how many Flight DLC are they selling and will it make Flight profitable (I might have bought some, but not without TrackIR. And some statement about 3rd parties and access to modding would help too - give me back customisation, freeware and lots of addons to chose from). These are the numbers that will make or kill Flight (but remember that the low metacritic scores will already have dinted the bean counters willingness to pour money in Flight) and who knows what they are (I might be pessimistic but I smell a disaster). Anyway, that's enough speculation from me, we'll only really know about all of that in one or 2 years I suspect.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:01 PM
While I don't speak with ANY authority, want to know some more truth? For those that are hoping Flight fails and Microsoft then turns their developmental efforts towards FS11, don't get called to do a drug screen! Whatever you're smoking will show up as a positive!Like it or not, Flight is the future for Microsoft. And it's the only future for Microsoft's franchise. Let's hope it does succeed, so that down the road it's development will have progressed far enough for the disenfranchised to consider it for their "serious/hardcore simming" endeavors.Just my opinion, of course.
And the truth shall set you free. About time someone publish the truth, exactly why this game will fail with it's current path.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:16 PM
Dont worry, my 8.5 score is just my personal opinion and is in no way official or applicable to anyone else :). I want a convincing flight model and Ive finally gotten a much improved FM. I'm tickled.
I have to politely disagree with your assertion this is an 8.5 heading for a 10. It is at best a 7.0 heading for an unknown AS WE STAND TODAY.
Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:37 PM
These are nondiscriminatory “As is right now” reviews of Flight… hard to dispute with its inaugural vanilla release. I would expect this to be the typical review… nonetheless it should only really matter what’s in it for you... each individual has their own standards to critique against. Individual critics are playing off the legacy of what was and comparing it to what is. If Microsoft decides to step on the gas and turn it up a few notches, these first inspections will be meaningless.-rjetster