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Route problem (LEPA-LIMF)


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#1 Lucass

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:17 AM

Hi,

I want to make flight plan from LEPA (Palma de Mallorca) to LIMF (Torino Caselle).
I studied enroute charts and enroute AIP and I created following plan:

MEROS UN853 LUMAS UT16 ADITA UN870 MAXIR UN853 BLONA UY11 KUMIN

or ewentually: MEROS UN853 BLONA UY11 KUMIN

I entered both plans into vRoute -> Add new route (add FL range from 290 to 360), but they didn't wear off validation. I don't know where I made mistake.
Could you help me create correct flight plan LEPA-LIMF?

Thanks,
Lucas

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#2 vololiberista

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:49 AM

Try this from route finder using the current airac cycle.
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Computed route from PALMA DE MALLORCA (LEPA, LE) to TORINO/CASELLE (LIMF, LI): 21 fixes, 475.7 nautical miles

Cruise altitude between FL250 and FL250
LEPA (0.0nm) -DCT-> BASSO (17.8nm) -UN851-> PEKOR (30.3nm) -UN851->
MHN (71.8nm) -UN851-> ISTER (95.8nm) -UN851-> LUNOR (134.4nm) -UM989->
BALEN (170.7nm) -UN854-> RASPA (244.6nm) -UN854-> MEBEL (264.7nm) -UN853->
TUNEG (297.6nm) -UN853-> TURIL (318.0nm) -UN853-> MAXIR (328.2nm) -UN853->
LUSOL (350.8nm) -UN853-> BODRU (380.1nm) -UN853-> OKTET (398.6nm) -UN853->
IRMAR (419.7nm) -UN853-> BLONA (432.3nm) -UY11-> TOSMI (441.0nm) -UY11->
LAPRI (448.6nm) -UY11-> KUMIN (456.7nm) -DCT-> LIMF (475.7nm)
Details:
ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/Remarks
LEPA 0 0 N39°33'06.00" E002°44'20.00" PALMA DE MALLORCA
BASSO 94 18 N39°32'39.61" E003°07'21.04" BASSO
PEKOR 71 13 N39°37'08.62" E003°22'29.11" PEKOR
MHN 112.6 71 42 N39°51'49.00" E004°12'58.73" MAHON-MENORCA
ISTER 62 24 N40°03'52.63" E004°39'59.99" ISTER
LUNOR 62 39 N40°23'06.00" E005°23'48.00" LUNOR
BALEN 23 36 N40°56'48.00" E005°41'24.00" BALEN
RASPA 352 74 N42°09'28.00" E005°23'47.00" RASPA
MEBEL 355 20 N42°29'31.00" E005°20'46.00" MEBEL
TUNEG 36 33 N42°56'47.00" E005°45'46.00" TUNEG
TURIL 36 20 N43°13'36.00" E006°01'26.00" TURIL
MAXIR 6 10 N43°23'44.00" E006°02'26.00" MAXIR
LUSOL 6 23 N43°46'17.00" E006°04'43.00" LUSOL
BODRU 28 29 N44°12'31.00" E006°22'40.00" BODRU
OKTET 28 19 N44°29'06.00" E006°34'10.00" OKTET
IRMAR 28 21 N44°48'00.00" E006°47'26.00" IRMAR
BLONA 359 13 N45°00'31.00" E006°46'38.00" BLONA
TOSMI 97 9 N44°59'38.00" E006°58'56.00" TOSMI
LAPRI 98 8 N44°58'49.00" E007°09'36.00" LAPRI
KUMIN 97 8 N44°57'58.00" E007°20'55.00" KUMIN
LIMF 43 19 N45°12'09.00" E007°38'58.00" TORINO/CASELLE

Tracks are magnetic, distances are in nautical miles.
LEPA DCT BASSO UN851 LUNOR UM989 BALEN UN854 MEBEL UN853 BLONA UY11 KUMIN DCT LIMF



#3 Lucass

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:41 AM

Hmm, regretably this route is also incorrect.

In RADAN we have:

"For AD’s where SID/STARs are published:

  • the last RP of the SID shall be filed as the first RP of the route"
  • ..so BASSO can't be point of route ... I think so...

We can change this route like this:
ISTER UN851 LUNOR UM989 BALEN UN854 MEBEL UN853 BLONA UY11 KUMIN (in LEPA there is SID ISTER)
..but it also incorrect route.

I haven't more ideas :(
Lukasz Trzaskowski

#4 tubavet

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:08 PM

Hi Lucas,

Which AIRAC is your VRoute set to? Just ran both routes through 1203 at the levels above and both validated ok. Have added the second routing (awaiting moderator approval) as easier to enter and only 1nm longer than the initial routing. It may be if you were using an older AIRAC that the route isn't valid. You should find the errors given when you try to validate which can give you some clues. You may need to look at the Eurocontrol Route Availabilty Document to work out the codes though.

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