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Missing LLZ26 for LOWI at FMC?

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Hi Pilots

 

There is no LLZ26 approach in the FMC to set up the DME/LLZ course to RWY 8 at Innsbruck.

As seen in the Tutorial there it should be.

Can you help me on this topic?


Peter Frey

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Some radio-based approaches are being removed to give place to RNAV procedures. PMDG's tutorial was made over a year ago, and several AIRAC cycles have gone through. Like everything in life, procedures change. Also, you should ask about this subject in the forum of your navdata provider. PMDG can't help you with this.


Matheus Mafra

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Good stuff - make sense, thank you very much!

I am using Navidat Pro from Aerosoft.


Peter Frey

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To gain back the LLZ 26 approach to rwy 8 (which is an amazing one), could someone put the ORIGINAL coding into this treat. THANKS A LOT!

 

You can find it at:

 

Microsoft Games/ Flight Simulator X/PMDG/sidstars/LOWI

 
Please, copy and past this section:
 
APPROACHES
APPROACH RNAV08 FIX WI801 AT OR ABOVE 10300 FIX WI802 AT OR ABOVE 9000 FIX WI803 AT OR ABOVE 7500 FIX OVERFLY WI804 AT 6000 RNW 08 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 2307 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX OVERFLY WI001 AT 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION ELMEM FIX ELMEM AT OR ABOVE 13000
APPROACH RNAV26 FIX WI002 AT 9500 FIX WI103 AT OR ABOVE 3320 RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 2400 FIX WI006 FIX OVERFLY WI007 FIX OVERFLY R300A SPEED 165 FIX OVERFLY R229A SPEED 165 FIX OVERFLY WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 AT 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION WI001 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500
APPROACH LOC26 FIX OEV21 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX OEV19 AT 9500 FIX OEV17 AT OR ABOVE 8700 FIX OEV14 AT OR ABOVE 7500 FIX OEV09 AT OR ABOVE 5500 FIX OEV63 AT 4410 RNW 26 FIX OVERFLY 01OEV AT OR ABOVE 2307 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX ABNB FIX OVERFLY OEV14 FIX RTTNB AT 9500 HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION RTT TRK 210 UNTIL 6.0 FROM FIX RTTNB
ENDAPPROACHES

Peter Frey

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Yeah this is the hiccup I ran into flying the tutorial.  The approach still exists but with different waypoints...  it's a little different but I just improvised.  Still was able to fly the procedure and CTL.


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Captains

 

Can somebody post the ORIGINAL sidstar file content of LOWI?

Might be helpful for all pilots, who lost the LLZ26 by updating their navdata.

 

 

Microsoft Games/ Flight Simulator X/PMDG/sidstars/LOWI

 
Please, copy and past this section:
 
APPROACHES
till
ENDAPPROACHES
 
THANK YOU!
 

Peter Frey

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APPROACHES
APPROACH LLZ26 FIX CL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX FL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX ML26 4414 RNW 26 HDG 254 VECTORS
 TRANSITION RTT FIX RTTNB AT OR ABOVE 9500 TRK 210 INTERCEPT RADIAL 254 TO FIX CL26
APPROACH RNAV08 FIX WI801 AT OR ABOVE 10300 FIX WI802 AT OR ABOVE 9000 FIX OVERFLY WI804 6000 RNW 08 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION ELMEM FIX ELMEM AT OR ABOVE 13000
APPROACH RNAV26 FIX WI002 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX WI103 AT OR ABOVE 3320 RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 2310 FIX WI006 FIX WI007 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION WI001 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500
ENDAPPROACHES
 

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Ummm, I just checked out my sidstars for LOWI and they are already as above supplied by Robert? I did see a comment by Navigraph on their latest release 1303 that LOWI was fixed....

from Navigraph news letter...

 

"In 1303 we have merged several data sources, including Jeppesen and Navtech among others. We have (1) included Gates information, and (2) Circle to Land procedures for LFMN, LPMA, and LOWI. (3) The ILS26 to ESSA is also back again.

 

To track the latest changes, we remind you about the Release Notes section of the Navigraph Support Forum, found here: http://www.navigraph.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22 As always, we appreciate your feedback on how to improve the data quality."

 

So, maybe they repaired the LOWI approach ?

 

Regards


Geoff Bryce

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Thanks for your thoughts G.B.

I am using NavDataPro from Aerosoft, which unfortunately not include this approach - after used all cycles I migth switch to Navigraph.


Peter Frey

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Captains

To recover the original file it is importent to fill in the entire codes. Because of Roberts help (thanks a lot again) I can post it here for you all.

 

FIXES
FIX ABNB LATLON N 47 17.31234 E 11 30.1005
FIX ADILO LATLON N 47 20.74884 E 10 56.85918
FIX BRENO LATLON N 46 58.8 E 11 22.60002
FIX CL26 LATLON N 47 20.65266 E 11 51.16452
FIX D065G LATLON N 47 21.5985 E 11 45.6192
FIX D073F LATLON N 47 18.86718 E 11 38.66352
FIX D136A LATLON N 47 25.002 E 11 57.53484
FIX D152V LATLON N 47 25.54998 E 10 35.83332
FIX D247C LATLON N 47 16.15164 E 11 25.66398
FIX ELMEM LATLON N 47 17.13798 E 10 34.24434
FIX FL26 LATLON N 47 20.18118 E 11 48.30666
FIX INNNB LATLON N 47 13.80048 E 11 24.1125
FIX KOGOL LATLON N 47 37.33332 E 11 23.98332
FIX KPT LATLON N 47 44.7465 E 10 20.98998
FIX KPT39 LATLON N 47 18.74286 E 11 3.86652
FIX KTINB LATLON N 47 12.93234 E 11 1.67034
FIX ML26 LATLON N 47 17.15982 E 11 30.17916
FIX NANIT LATLON N 47 23.5812 E 12 20.78616
FIX OBEDI LATLON N 47 19.67382 E 13 19.78482
FIX OEJ LATLON N 47 18.87018 E 11 36.14532
FIX RASTA LATLON N 47 29.72568 E 13 22.88202
FIX RTTNB LATLON N 47 25.85532 E 11 56.40318
FIX SBG LATLON N 48 0.15498 E 12 53.56566
FIX TULSI LATLON N 47 42.09648 E 11 47.32548
FIX UNKEN LATLON N 47 49.30002 E 12 36.06666
FIX WI001 LATLON N 47 25.8555 E 11 56.40384
FIX WI002 LATLON N 47 22.6002 E 11 49.50018
FIX WI005 LATLON N 47 15.14532 E 11 16.11366
FIX WI006 LATLON N 47 18.34002 E 11 5.16336
FIX WI007 LATLON N 47 19.203 E 10 58.99902
FIX WI008 LATLON N 47 16.64268 E 10 59.36034
FIX WI103 LATLON N 47 16.27482 E 11 26.7927
FIX WI501 LATLON N 47 15.14532 E 11 16.11336
FIX WI502 LATLON N 47 18.34002 E 11 5.16414
FIX WI505 LATLON N 47 15.14532 E 11 16.11414
FIX WI506 LATLON N 47 17.41152 E 11 8.35452
FIX WI507 LATLON N 47 18.34002 E 11 5.16252
FIX WI801 LATLON N 47 17.5455 E 10 44.32566
FIX WI802 LATLON N 47 17.78184 E 10 50.37582
FIX WI804 LATLON N 47 18.23184 E 11 2.22786
ENDFIXES

RNWS
RNW 08
RNW 26
ENDRNWS

SIDS
SID ADIL1J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OVERFLY OEJ AT OR ABOVE 7500 SPEED 165 TURN RIGHT DIRECT FIX INNNB FIX ADILO
SID ELME1H RNW 26 FIX WI505 AT OR ABOVE 3520 FIX WI506 AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX WI507 AT OR ABOVE 8430 FIX ELMEM
SID ELME1X RNW 26 FIX WI501 AT OR ABOVE 3190 FIX WI502 AT OR ABOVE 6490 FIX ELMEM
SID KOGO2J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX KOGOL
SID KPT1Z RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX OVERFLY ABNB AT OR ABOVE 5600 TURN RIGHT DIRECT FIX INNNB AT OR ABOVE 9400 SPEED 154 FIX KPT39 AT OR ABOVE 11500 FIX D152V FIX KPT
SID OBED2J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX OBEDI
SID RAST3J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX RASTA
SID RTT1W RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX D073F AT OR ABOVE 6900 FIX RTTNB
SID RTT2J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1
SID RTT2X RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 5450 FIX WI007 AT OR ABOVE 6750 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 11500
SID UNKE1J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX UNKEN
ENDSIDS

STARS
STAR BREN2A FIX BRENO FIX INNNB FIX RTTNB
  RNW 08 RNW 26
STAR BREN2B FIX BRENO FIX KTINB
  RNW 08 RNW 26
STAR ELME1A FIX ELMEM FIX KTINB
  RNW 08 RNW 26
STAR RAST4A FIX RASTA FIX NANIT FIX RTTNB
  RNW 08 RNW 26
STAR SBG3A FIX SBG FIX RTTNB
  RNW 08 RNW 26
STAR TULS3A FIX TULSI FIX RTTNB
  RNW 08 RNW 26
ENDSTARS

APPROACHES
APPROACH LLZ26 FIX CL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX FL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX ML26 4414 RNW 26 HDG 254 VECTORS
 TRANSITION RTT FIX RTTNB AT OR ABOVE 9500 TRK 210 INTERCEPT RADIAL 254 TO FIX CL26
APPROACH RNAV08 FIX WI801 AT OR ABOVE 10300 FIX WI802 AT OR ABOVE 9000 FIX OVERFLY WI804 6000 RNW 08 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION ELMEM FIX ELMEM AT OR ABOVE 13000
APPROACH RNAV26 FIX WI002 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX WI103 AT OR ABOVE 3320 RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 2310 FIX WI006 FIX WI007 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1
 TRANSITION WI001 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500
ENDAPPROACHES


Peter Frey

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