And let the PC build begin ...

[Guest]

Focus of this PC will be P3D with some XP10.

 

I'm not sure what I'll do with my now 3+ year old PC (3960X) yet, maybe sell parts of it maybe just keep it for my development work.

 

Anyway, thought I'd layout my progress and see where this 5960X adventure takes me ... goal will be quiet computing with moderate goals of 4.5-4.8 Ghz CPU @ 3300Mhz RAM.

 

The Asus RAMPAGE V and i7 5960X arrived today (warning large image):

 

 

I'm still researching for memory but I think I've settled on G.Skill DDR4 3300Mhz in 16GB as I've heard it is more stable than the 32GB option.  This stuff: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231807&cm_re=g.skill_ddr4_16gb-_-20-231-807-_-Product

 

CPU and RAM Cooling will come from this kit, but I need to confirm it'll work with the LGA2011-V3 socket.  http://www.frozencpu.com/products/23378/ex-wat-299/XSPC_Raystorm_RX360_V3_Extreme_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_D5_Photon_and_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321s1310

 

RAM cooling I'm not sure about yet ... the air setup that comes with the G.Skill is probably not going to hack it so I'm looking to water cooling blocks for RAM ... something like this: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20804/ex-blc-1489/Alphacool_NexXxoS_RXP-1_RAM-Cooler_DDR1DDR2DDR3_-_G14_-_Black_Nickel.html?tl=g30c225s557

 

Will update this thread as I progress.  Lets see if the 5960X can be made to dance.

 

Cheers, Rob.

[Poppet 710]

Very nice,  will follow this with great interest........and large amounts of jealousy      

[Guest]

I was planning to wait for Intel's Skylake, but thought I'd give this experiment a go (it may pan out to be a bust, but that's part of the adventure).

 

Cheers, Rob.

[Lashrathius 49]

Wow that's a sweet build Rob! I've heard that P3D is more focused on GPU (different from FSX, which is more focused on CPU); have you settled on one yet? 

[dgraham1284 92]

EK Waterblocks makes great kits. I highly recommend them. I had the raystorm block. It was gone rather quickly.  If you need some help, feel free to ask. This is my forté.

[Guest]

 

 

EK Waterblocks makes great kits.

 

Yeah, I did look at the EK kits, a tad cheaper but I think they use the same copper core radiator which is good if they do.  What didn't you like about raystorm water blocks?

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

 

Wow that's a sweet build Rob! I've heard that P3D is more focused on GPU (different from FSX, which is more focused on CPU)

 

P3D is focused on both CPU/GPU (as is XP10) ... very important to keep a well balanced system ... that's why I'm going with 3300Mhz RAM with 4.5-4.8Ghz CPU ... no point in overclocking the CPU without doing the RAM also ... my hunch is the RAM will be the real challenge -- getting it to be reliable at 3300Mhz (hence the water cooling for RAM).

 

Cheers, Rob.

[dgraham1284 92]

I use an EKWB Supremacy Plexi water block (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19628/ex-blc-1442/EK_Supremacy_EVO_Universal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Plexi_EK-Supremacy_EVO.html?tl=g57c603s1912), EKWB Full Cover GPU blocks, XPSC RX360 V2 Rad, Alphacool UT60 Rad, Swiftech MCP35x Pump, Bitspower bitspower reservoir z-multi 150, and Aerocool DS 120 Fans (which are seriously quiet and move a lot of air).

 

I hated the mounting system for the Raystorm block, hate is a strong word too.  It's hard to get mounted with even pressure and even more difficult if you want to remove the block/reinstall with the motherboard still installed in the case. 

I voided the warranty on the pump by installing a pump heatsink (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/24883/ex-pmp-321/Bitspower_DDC_MCP35x_Pump_Heatsink_-_Deep_Bold_Red_BP-DDCPC-DBR.html?tl=c107s156b145), integration kit for the res (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21027/ex-res-639/Bitspower_Single_DDC_Top_Upgrade_Kit_150_-_Clear_BP-DDCTOPUK150P-BKCL.html?tl=c107s156b145) and new pump top (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21026/ex-pmp-253/Bitspower_Laing_DDC_MCP35x_Series_Pump_Top_-_Acrylic_BP-DDCTAC-CL.html?tl=c107s1806b145)

 

 

Ignore the mix and match fittings...

 

Good thing micro center offers a 2 year warranty so I can skip the manufacturer.  :ph34r:

[Guest]

Like your setup (I was going to go with the blue theme also, easier to spot for any leaks) ... how's the noise/vibration from the pump?  Did you install a damper for the pump?

 

Cheers, Rob.

[dgraham1284 92]

Thank you. Zero noise, I can't hear the pump. I am using one of the mounting brackets for the res. Honestly, I can even believe how quiet the whole setup is. 

 

This is the whole thing:

 

[Guest]

I love it!  It looks almost Alien. 

 

Quiet is important to me also.

 

Cheers, Rob.

[westman 257]

Rob

You not need any cooling for the rams the ddr4 runs cool if you not plan for +1.65v.

I run 3200mhz cl12 1t with stock gskill cooling.

[Guest]

 

 

You not need any cooling for the rams the ddr4 runs cool if you not plan for +1.65v.

 

Oh my no 1.65v is what I currently run on my DDR3 RAM and it does run HOT!   G.Skill DDR4 is 1.35v  (DDR4 is normally 1.2v)

 

But thanks for the tip, maybe I will hold off on RAM cooling and see what the temps are ... it just concerns me when manufacturers include fan kits with their memory modules, meaning they are on the unstable edge.

 

Cheers, Rob.

[dgraham1284 92]

Oh my no 1.65v is what I currently run on my DDR3 RAM and it does run HOT!   G.Skill DDR4 is 1.35v  (DDR4 is normally 1.2v)

 

But thanks for the tip, maybe I will hold off on RAM cooling and see what the temps are ... it just concerns me when manufacturers include fan kits with their memory modules, meaning they are on the unstable edge.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

It's a marketing gimmick, those fans. You should be fine. 

[westman 257]

To benefit high speed mems on x99 you need cash speed ( uncore) +4000 optimal 4200-4500.

Overclocking the RVE in general , this is some important steps.

CPU input voltage 0.3-0.4v above CPU Vcore.

Synch Cash voltage with your Vcore voltage.

To get high uncore it helps to have a value of 1.25-1.35 SET CLK DE.

 

Good luck with your RVE system

[denali 74]

RAM speed is important for FSX and P3D.  It will affect load times and with good bandwidth to the GPU texture loading.  I never get the blurries, or didn't until P3D went to tessellation.  Still, I never have texture loading issues.

 

RAM should be cooled, but your case should have good airflow then.  No, great airflow, preferably with positive pressure and good filters.  RAM that is overclocked, which is what the DDR4 3200 is, should be cooled, but more from a keeping the case cooler perspective.  I was going to do watercooled, but it really isn't necessary if you're not overclocking further.  It'll be fun to see what you can do.  Another part to cool is the i/o controller on the board.  Does that Asus board have that?  With lower power needs now that may not be an issue, but with the last "clock tick" release from Intel there were issues with i/o controllers overheating (looking like CPU issues) trying to keep up with it's sister i/o parts on the cpu itself.  In other words, mobo controllers weren't keeping up with cpu upgrades.  

I am considering taking a day or two to OC my system again, since I never saved the settings that had at 4.8 (ouch!) Taking good notes is essential.  I start out wit normal mobo stable at normal votages.  Then decrease the voltage until it is no longer stable.  Then increase voltage a small step, then find stable frequency, lather, rinse, repeat.  Also, every once in a while I'll go down in voltage at a frequency, because I suspect that each frequency has it's own harmonic characteristics, and thus it's own power bleed characteristics/different probability of bleeding power. Thus maybe one voltage will be stable at a higher frequency than the next highest voltage.   If you can go down small voltage at a given frequency, then you can maybe go up a frequency without adding voltage.  As you know the damage in OCing comes from the voltages.   This is why the cleanest power available is essential (Houston has the Terrible power, I think Hurricate Ike created a bandaided network)  I haven't mapped this theory of frequency/power/harmonics limits out yet, but I'm considering it.   Power differences from household to household and mobo to mobo may explain some of the variability of OCs.  

 

My mother was a victim of Stalin and ######. She was born in the great depression on a small dairy farm (eat moar cheese and butter folks!), lived through WWII with 8 siblings, some of which went to that war, and then married into the Air Force to fight Stalin here and abroad in SAC.  And honestly armed forces ashamedly leave their serving families relatively impoverished for the good work they do.  Then imagine a divorce, a uneducted mother of 5 that never worked before, and you have the true effects geopolitics brings us.  "Their dad" was away on a mission for too long during a troubled marriage, and I was number 5 that broke up the marriage.  The thing I am grateful for is she made sure I went to the one of the best public schools in the country (back when US was #1, not #25 ... what happened?) , which made the difference in my life, but at the price of being by far the poorest kid and almost only kid of a single parent in that district.   So like when watching my IT Overlord friend build his Trash 80, I'm very used to watching other kids play with their awesome Christmas presents, lol.