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I have an I7 490K on a ASUS Z97-P and no issues OC CPU to 4.7GHZ and Cache to 4.6GHZ, RAM from 1600mhz to 1866 mhz, GPU from 1080 to 1200mhz.... no stability problem.

 

WOW performance for a less than 100€ mobo...

 

regarding GPU i have a R9 270X and it is perfoming quite well with no visual issue. Yes a titan would perform better but it cost ten times more ;-) (R9 270X=160€)

 

another price-wise GPU i think is GTX 970 if you want a nvidia card as many experts suggest.

Pass me the link were you found the ASUS board for less that €100. Here it cost €180.

 

Intel I7 4790K € 350

Motherboard € 150/200,-

Corsair Vengeance € +/- 150,-

nVidia GTX 970 € 375,-

 

Total about € 1000/1100,-

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Pass me the link were you found the ASUS board for less that €100. Here it cost €180.

 

Intel I7 4790K € 350

Motherboard € 150/200,-

Corsair Vengeance € +/- 150,-

nVidia GTX 970 € 375,-

 

Total about € 1000/1100,-

 

http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00LXT6H1I/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_0

 

it costs less in italian site than international:

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-2600-1150-Motherboards-Z97-P/dp/B00L49XEFE

even more than exchange difference... however it is just 110$ 

 

i repeat in my experience it is sufficient with I7 4790K @4.7ghz and all other overclocks, air cooling (coolmaster 212 evo)

 

RAM (8gb are sufficient):

http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00D2LGT72/ref=pe_386201_51767741_TE_dp_1

85€

 

for $ this: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Channel-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B004CRSM4I

but is CL10 i'm sure there is also the CL9 version...

 

i bought well with amazon and with "prime" i also didn't pay transportation fees...

 

i have different (ATI R9 270X - 160€) GPU so don't know about GTX 970 (which of course is better than mine but costs twice as much...)

 

you will also need a decent CPU cooler (stock sucks) CM 212 evo is quite good and costs just 30€...

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Thanks for the suggestions Allesandro v81! I definately have a look over there, because the prices here are total insane.

 

Found the ASRock Z97 Extreme6 motherboard. Is this a good choice for the I7 4790K with 8 or 16GB Vengeance RAM and Nvidia GTX 970? Or is the ASUS Z97-Pro (Wi-Fi AC) a better choice?

 

Sorry for the questions, but if I spend such amount of money I want to be sure.

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Dutchbull79 to be honest, i don t know, i only know that my mobo is going well with that cpu. Dont know others you have to ask someone that mobo or google it. I7 4790k and asus z97 are very common so i think you have a lot to read. Try tom's hardware

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Found the ASRock Z97 Extreme6 motherboard. Is this a good choice for the I7 4790K with 8 or 16GB Vengeance RAM and Nvidia GTX 970? Or is the ASUS Z97-Pro (Wi-Fi AC) a better choice?

 

There are online reviews for both motherboards and they seem equally as favorable so it would possibly come down to your own preference in terms of looks, price, warranty, features. My own preference would be towards Asus as I have had both new and second hand parts from their range and have never had any issues with them, they seem to be built with quality and long life in view unlike others that seem to build in faults so that you have to replace parts every 3 years or so.

 

For FSX and most applications 8GB of RAM is sufficient.

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What would be the difference between the I5 4690K and the I7 4790K? The difference is price is here about € 125, but is the difference in performance worth the money?

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What would be the difference between the I5 4690K and the I7 4790K? The difference is price is here about € 125, but is the difference in performance worth the money?

 

My tests showed marginal improvements in FSX/P3D.  It comes down to the use you will make of your PC - it might matter in later versions of P3D, who knows.


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I would go with the 4690k and use the money you saved there and get a SSD deticated for Flight sim.


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I would go with the 4690k and use the money you saved there and get a SSD deticated for Flight sim.

 

I already have a SSD for FSX, but it's 1 SSD with 2 partitions (Windows C: and FSX D:)

 

Have seen some benchmarks between the I5 and I7 and there are (at maximum) 5 fps difference between the two in games. Not sure how it will be with FSX though..

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I already have a SSD for FSX, but it's 1 SSD with 2 partitions (Windows C: and FSX D:)

 

Have seen some benchmarks between the I5 and I7 and there are (at maximum) 5 fps difference between the two in games. Not sure how it will be with FSX though..

 

My brother has a I5 4690K i ran P3D V2.4 on his PC and i saw some FPS less (3-5?)

 

the question is what are you expecting? If you want the best from the sim (like i wanted) thant i will spend 100€ more and be sure that i have the best CPU on the market till now (excluding 6-8 cores monsters that are more suited for workstations, and quality/cost cannot be compared with I7 4790K which is higher due to its low cost).

 

Put in your mind that P3d will not go 30FPS everywhere with max setting nor with I4690K nor with I7 4790K, so then the extra € 100 you pay are spent to increase performance, are not wasted.

 

My tests (on my system) show also that P3d runs better with HT on so you use also that I7-only  feature.

 

best regards

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My brother has a I5 4690K i ran P3D V2.4 on his PC and i saw some FPS less (3-5?)

 

the question is what are you expecting? If you want the best from the sim (like i wanted) thant i will spend 100€ more and be sure that i have the best CPU on the market till now (excluding 6-8 cores monsters that are more suited for workstations, and quality/cost cannot be compared with I7 4790K which is higher due to its low cost).

 

Put in your mind that P3d will not go 30FPS everywhere with max setting nor with I4690K nor with I7 4790K, so then the extra € 100 you pay are spent to increase performance, are not wasted.

 

My tests (on my system) show also that P3d runs better with HT on so you use also that I7-only  feature.

 

best regards

 

What I expect from the total upgrade is more FPS on FSX and other (furure) games. Also more performance when 4K gaming is coming in. As a test I put every setting in FSX on max and the FPS are now at 7 max, so that's unplayable.

 

The I7 has HT and the standard clock speed is higher, but with overclocking of the I5 4690K 4GHZ should be no problem, although the clock speed of the I7 would be always higher, but is this noticeable in games?

 

Do some videoconverting/editing, but it is only for home using, so no high performance apps for this.The main task is games, but I don't want to regret and have the feeling that I didn't get everything out of the system for buying the I5 and not the I7.

 

Think €125,- difference is a lot of money for the CPU, so the speed difference has to be noticeable, otherwise it make no sence to buy the I7. Can spend the money I 'save' with the CPU on a high performance GPU instead.

 

So it is:

 

I7 4790K + GTX 970

or

I5 4690K + GTX 980 (this is € 250 more expensive)

 

What will be the best option?

 

ps. What about the new Broadwell CPU'S? Is it smart to wait for those or will it make no difference?

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Think €125,- difference is a lot of money for the CPU, so the speed difference has to be noticeable, otherwise it make no sence to buy the I7. Can spend the money I 'save' with the CPU on a high performance GPU instead.

 

So it is:

 

I7 4790K + GTX 970

or

I5 4690K + GTX 980

 

What will be the best option?

 

I5 4690K vs I7 4790K at stock clocks the second outpeforms the first, with ease

 

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4690K

 

+25% overall performance in cinebench even +15% on single core one. Is this noticeable in games? Depends on the game in P3d and other cpu bound app, yes. obviously the value for $ is greater for the I5, but here a lot depends on what one expects. If you are a guy who is content with a decent performance then go for the I5, if you want the best you should go for 'I7: you will not get the maximum in P3D (or even more in FSX) with a slower processor and better GPU (if you have not an ugly/bottlenecking one of course), as well as they are now the values in the field.

 

Also I7 4790K is easly oc to 4.6-4.7, I5 requires liquid cooling to reach that speed. Good liquid cooling requires better mobo (the 125$ would be spent there). So beeing until now P3d a still mostly CPU dependent app, the question is 15% more performance in P3d worth 125$? The answer is yours...

 

Also even at the same clock speed I7 will perform better, even in single core performance...

 

In p3d with one monitor setup i think the difference in performance from a GTX 970 to GTX 980 would be a lot less than 15%.

 

I answered to that question (reading many comments on this forum) that the priority is the CPU and then I took the maximum (almost): I did not regret it later.

 

I have a ATI R9 270X (much slower than GTX 970) which at high settings have a load of average 50%, max 80% with almost maxed settings (and tessellation maxed). Yes a GTX 980 would be better but with one monitor setup i don't think the difference would be greater than the one between I7 and I5, i'm pretty sure about that! (and the difference in price is even higher)

 

As for other app (games) I7 4790K GTX 970 will be lighting fast, future games i don't know... it depends also on the games you are going to play: strategic games will be better with I7, action ones better with GTX 980...

Here you will find a very useful and recent thread....

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/463971-chasing-my-tail/

 

with experiences like this look with disbelief at those who say that there is no GPU's overkill in P3D ... maybe with 4K resolution ... but not now and with a normal monitor.

 

In my understanding of the sim (which i have to admit is limited) for P3d V 2.5 cards superior than GTX 680 will perform pretty the same and only allow more "eye candies" or/and very high resolutions.

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Ps 3-5 fps difference only from i5-i7 i reported before is far from scentific and probably due to slight different settings (did not remember water) i believe there is more fps difference between the two cpu... but not sure it may depend also from different ccc settings

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