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FSX: Steam Edition... is it worth transferring yet?

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You then just set the game to never update until it's launched, then go to offline mode. So three steps in whole.

 

Less mouse clicks than setting up a Free Flight in FSX.

 

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This is true, but as I said, we are all human, and would need to go online at some point, and can forget to go ofline after. I still have to question why you are forced to updated, to play a game

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You then just set the game to never update until it's launched, then go to offline mode. So three steps in whole.

 

Less mouse clicks than setting up a Free Flight in FSX.

 

 

 

I haven't got there yet since I just started using offline mode, but I read somewhere after a couple of weeks of being offline,it will force you to reconnect to perform updates? If so you're only delaying the inevitable!!


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I don't think I've seen another genre of computer software suffer from so much "fear of change" than users of MS Flightsim. What's all this talk about endless updates? 20 minutes of Steam updates? I've never had a Steam update that took more than a minute. Updates to FS itself? Still uncommon even on Steam but that can be DISABLED. It works in offline mode. 

 

I think the "afraid of change" types should at least come out and say "yeah...i just don't like change". Making up falsehoods in an attempt to scare people away from a product you are simply afraid of is crazy. The Steam client isn't invasive in any way, shape or form and many of it's features are amazing. In fact, I think you'll soon see, for better or worse, the Steam MSFS forum become THE most active Flightsim forum out there.

It seems you are not reading the posts here correctly, or my posts, in detail. Nothing to do with "afraid of change" AT ALL, you assume too much!! And it's far from being based on falsehoods. I would very much like to see FSX: SE succeed but while it is managed by the Steam client, it has very serious flaws, that it seems you and others have not considered or found with others in other parts of the world. CodeChris's response below yours is now understanding this. I am a beta tester for many brands of software, so I know how to do due diligence and testing of software, and I have not finished testing all features of the Steam client, to be honest and truthful, it has put me off with it's "fiddling" and download/update issues. But my posts on this forum have revealed both my own and others, way of using this client.

 

I think Screwbottle here does have a point, and one I'd never considered before; Steam does force you to update to play a game, even if you don't want to. For us in Europe, sections of Asia (Japan, South Korea etc) it doesn't matter; we have really fast, uncapped internet access. But for other places, Australia, large section of America, Asia etc, that is a problem. Imagine waiting 3 hours to play a game just because it has an update? That's very restrictive. Imagine if you go over your cap? Oh no, sorry, can't play the game till you've updated it, gone over your cap? Pay or wait till end of the month.

 

I owe Screwbottle an apology here, I've been a little heavy handed with my responses. That feature of steam, update or don't play, is really annoying for those in low bandwidth areas

Thanks CodeChris, appreciate your reply. At least you now see where I am going with this, for myself and others who will face my same issues. And if I could talk to DTG directly, or even Valve (Steam) I would cover all of these issues, to improve both the client, and the games running under this client. I am not against the success of FSX: SE, but it needs to get closer in use and operation, and I believe they are getting there but missing some existing issues, to those of us that have used FSX for many years in it's current form, and we see many changes that are not condusive to a good experience. For Steam purists, and many using FSX for the first time, or past limited use with a new awakening, with unlimited internet access, these question are never asked, or realised.

I think all you have to do is click "Go Offline...", and you don't have to worry about updates anymore.

See my post in reply to france89, point no. 2, yes but only if the game or all games are up to date, can you go offline. It's clearly stated on the Steam forums, I went and checked after being told of the "offline" mode. So catch 22 damned if you update, damned if you don't update. As tf51d posted above, I am sure that eventually the Steam client will insist on doing updates to it's own client, as well as any and all installed games, so this is untested water, as far as I can see.

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Here's another fly in the ointment, I have thought about. This is when a hard drive, and yes SDD's much sooner, crash, and they do crash for many unexplainable reasons. Great you now want to restore all Steam games, including your FSX: SE. Hopefully you have run the backup from within the client, on a regular basis to trap the latest updates. And I have done this at the beginning of the year, when I built a new system and wanted a fresh start. With Steam, you have no source disc, or media, so you are reliant on the installation of the Steam client, which will allow one to restore your backed up games content, AFTER the game has installed, IF you have the backup. If not then you are looking at Gigs' of download. Again what do those of us do with low internet and capacity services, or as suggested, limited caps.

 

I took a week to install all of my Steam games, just another "small" issue to consider. I am not ruling out that there is a similiar process with standalone games, but I own my media, and I backup up all of my configuration files, aircraft and scenery once installed, as well as having all of the installers on an external hard drive. So my recovery is quicker, without the use of the Internet, the MAIN difference.

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Just launch Steam before you go to bed. Everything will update while you sleep.

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Just launch Steam before you go to bed. Everything will update while you sleep.

Hee! Hee! Yeah, done and do that, worn out the T-shirt, now a rag :P

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You then just set the game to never update until it's launched, then go to offline mode. So three steps in whole.

 

 

Hi AviatorMoser / Daniel

 

Well I was following your posts, and going to try your configuration suggestion, and lo and behold as I started the Steam client, it's updating ??? the second time since last week!!!!! And I put the games into offline mode prior. So this offline mode does not work for the Steam client itself, again annoying no matter how fast it installs, and at the end of the client install, it's now asking me of a choice of offline or online mode.

 

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So as one can see the Steam client I will say once again, is in control at all times, and adding to the time for one to start ANY game, something which is taking longer and longer what with the content involved in today's games. Bloatware, never mind if one has the fastest system on the planet, compounded by this client.

 

And I have discovered your settings you offered as a screen shot, the top option, Automatic Updates, I could not change in offline mode, the dropdown is locked, all other options are available, so only when going back online does it unlock. And I tested on all of the games I have installed in Steam, the same result. Strike 2 for Steam.

 

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