Reply...to "why not use..." I am using a Saitek Yoke and other items. One of which is a USB keyboard, plugged into the yoke. It's quickest for me to just use the usb kb, "Z", and stay on the same panel/windshield view...no slewing around to find the extended 800 "on/off" panel. Bad habit I suppose...but, got knuckles rapped a few times for keeping eyes inside the cp too much. v/r qar02